Sovereign Citizen Crackpot Theories

There Are THREE United States?

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Claimed: There are Actually Three United States

I can’t say why this is supposed to matter, it seems to buttress the argument that the United States is a corporation rather than a nation and government.

It’s pretty instructive how they get to this…it shows how they parse the law by not even reading the cases they cite…I presume the purpose is to cast doubt on the straightforward proposition that the US is a single nation and a sovereign, not a corporation. It is spectacularly unsuccessful when you actually read their authority for the idea:

They cite the Hooven case, involving goods from the Philippines, then a territory of the US, which asked the question whether those goods were ‘imports’ into “the United States” under the Constitution and thus exempt from state taxation, or, since the US owned the Philippines, were they not imports?

And the real question was whether the Philippines were “in the United States” or not. And that led to needing to examine what the Constitution referred to in that provision when it said “into the United States.” So the Court came into a consideration of, for this clause and in this case, what “the United States” means.

Here is the relevant quote:

The term “United States” may be used in any one of several senses. It may be merely the name of a sovereign occupying the position analogous to that of other sovereigns in the family of nations. It may designate the territory over which the sovereignty of the United States extends, or it may be the collective name of the states which are united by and under the Constitution.
Hooven & Allison Co. v. Evatt 324 U.S. 652 (1945)

Uh…wait that’s not showing there are three United States!!

It actually says that the words “United States” can mean different things depending on how they are used…

Note that this also acknowledges the US is a sovereignty...and it in no sense creates or defines or recognizes three different ‘United States’. Nothing about it being a corporation either.

The court ruled that the Philippines were not part of the United States for this purpose, even though owned by the United States.

Someone didn’t read the decision, or if they did they completely ignored all context and half the actual words in that paragraph.

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